Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/27/2004 03:11 PM House HES

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HB 239-ID SYSTEM FOR PRESCRIPTIONS                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1764                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 239, "An  Act directing the Department  of Public                                                               
Safety   to  establish   an  Internet-based   identification  and                                                               
tracking  system  relating  to  controlled  substances  that  are                                                               
prescribed for  human use;  and relating to  the manner  in which                                                               
prescriptions  for  controlled  substances  may be  filled  by  a                                                               
pharmacist."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2131                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SUE WRIGHT,  Staff to Representative Mike  Chenault, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  presented  HB  239   on  behalf  of  Representative                                                               
Chenault, sponsor  of HB 239.   She told the members  that Alaska                                                               
has  a  drug problem  of  epidemic  proportions.   In  the  Kenai                                                               
Peninsula area there  have been 27 near fatal  or fatal overdoses                                                               
of  OxyContin.    This  number   includes  accidental  deaths  or                                                               
suicides.    She  told  the  members that  there  is  a  licensed                                                               
physician in  Anchorage who prescribed  16,000 milligrams  in one                                                               
30-day  period in  July  of 2001.    Ms. Wright  said  it is  not                                                               
possible  to  ingest  that  much.     The  person  who  that  was                                                               
prescribed to is dead, she added.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked if that prescription was for one person.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. WRIGHT  replied yes, it was  prescribed to one person  who is                                                               
now dead.   She explained that the patient died  in July of 2001,                                                               
but the prescriptions were not  filled until September or October                                                               
of that year.  It is assumed  that these drugs were being sold on                                                               
the  street.   Ms. Wright  added that  Medicaid dollars  paid for                                                               
these prescriptions.  One person  on the Kenai Peninsula has been                                                               
present at seven  different deaths and is a  known [drug] dealer.                                                               
She told the  members that Representative   Chenault's office has                                                               
worked with a  police chief whose wife had been  on OxyContin and                                                               
who  had obtained  it illegally.    Ms. Wright  pointed out  that                                                               
Representative Wolf  has sponsored two bills  that either outlaws                                                               
or restricts  OxyContin use.   She  told the  member that  HB 239                                                               
allows  for the  Board  of  Pharmacy to  design  and implement  a                                                               
system  to  track controlled  substances  in  schedule IA  in  AS                                                               
11.71.140.   The  board was  chosen because  the pharmacy  is the                                                               
origination of  a filled prescription.   It is the best  place to                                                               
control the use of a drug, she added.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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MS.  WRIGHT  said this  bill  gives  the  Board of  Pharmacy  the                                                               
authority  to manage  the tracking  system once  it is  designed.                                                               
This shall be done through regulation,  she added.  The bill also                                                               
requires the revamping  of the delivery of schedule  IA drugs via                                                               
the U.S.  Postal Service  or other delivery  services.   She said                                                               
there have  been concerns raised  by out-of-state  providers such                                                               
as Medco  Health Solutions, Inc.  [letter dated April  6,2004] of                                                               
increased  costs to  providers of  $16.76.   Ms. Wright  told the                                                               
members that  she researched  this question  by visiting  the UPS                                                               
web  site and  found that  it would  increase cost  by $1.75  per                                                               
prescription.   Ms. Wright  pointed out  that there  are in-state                                                               
pharmacies   that   already    implement   controlled   substance                                                               
deliveries  out into  the bush  communities  by registered  mail.                                                               
There is an  additional $5.00 charge per  prescription, she said.                                                               
Ms. Wright told the members that  while this bill is not perfect,                                                               
it is a start.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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MS. WRIGHT  shared that  there are  concerns that  the additional                                                               
requirements  would  "red flag"  drug  packages.   She  said  she                                                               
learned  that outside  pharmaceutical  companies  often have  its                                                               
name  printed  on  the  outside   of  delivery  packages.    When                                                               
companies use its company's logo  on the outside of packages, she                                                               
said she believes  it is a moot  point to say the  package is red                                                               
flagged by  requiring a signature  for delivery  at a home.   She                                                               
noted that Medco uses its logo on the outside of packages.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WRIGHT  said in  conclusion,  Medicaid  alone paid  over  $2                                                               
million  in  2001 for  OxyContin.    Between  10 percent  and  27                                                               
percent of Medicaid costs for  OxyContin were for drugs that were                                                               
sold on  the streets.  If  these statistics are shown  to be true                                                               
for one drug  and if tracking can be shown  to keep OxyContin off                                                               
the streets, it  may be possible to save  several million dollars                                                               
by  implementing this  tracking  system, she  said.   Ms.  Wright                                                               
emphasized that this  is not meant to be an  invasion of privacy,                                                               
but a reaction to the drug problems that face Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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Number 2361                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON referred  to the  Department of  Community                                                               
and Economic Development's November 17, 2003 letter which says:                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      We feel, however, that for any monitoring program to                                                                      
       work, the prescribers must be included along with                                                                        
     pharmacists and law enforcement agencies.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  Ms.  Wright if  this provision  was                                                               
incorporated into the legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  WRIGHT   replied  that  the  letter   Representative  Seaton                                                               
referred to is  addressing a different version of the  bill.  She                                                               
explained that the new version of  HB 239 provides for a state of                                                               
the  art tracking  system that  would  run over  the same  secure                                                               
Internet lines that  are currently being used  by pharmacies when                                                               
billing  or prequalifying  insurance  payments on  prescriptions.                                                               
Ms.  Wright told  the members  that there  is a  software company                                                               
that   designs  this   type  of   system  and   has  successfully                                                               
implemented it nationwide.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 2241                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  moved  to  adopt CSHB  239,  23-LS0897\S,  as  the                                                               
working  document.   There  being  no  objection, Version  S  was                                                               
before committee.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2221                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET  SODEN, Chair,  Alaska  Board of  Pharmacy, Division  of                                                               
Occupational  Licensing,  Department  of Community  and  Economic                                                               
Development, testified on HB 239.   She told the members that her                                                               
testimony is only on behalf of  herself, as the board has not had                                                               
an opportunity  to look at the  latest version of the  bill.  Ms.                                                               
Soden  said that  the board  and  pharmacists in  general are  in                                                               
favor  of  this  concept  of  an  Internet  tracking  system  for                                                               
controlled  substances.     She  explained  that   the  board  of                                                               
pharmacy's budget  is quite  slim so  in order  to do  this right                                                               
there would have to be adequate  funding to implement it and keep                                                               
it running.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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CHAIR WILSON  commented that she  has had calls  from pharmacists                                                               
who believe they  will be in the position of  being the policemen                                                               
in this system.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. SODEN replied  that is true.  She pointed  to Section 1, page                                                               
1, lines 7 through 11, which says:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     ...  secure   networked  server-based  data   base  and                                                                    
     procedures  under which  each pharmacist  in the  state                                                                    
     will  be  required  to  determine,  by  consulting  the                                                                    
     secure  data   base,  whether  a  prescription   for  a                                                                    
     controlled  substance that  is being  dispensed by  the                                                                    
     pharmacist to cover  a certain time period  for a human                                                                    
     patient  duplicates  a prescription  already  dispensed                                                                    
       for the same patient that was intended to cover a                                                                        
     substantial portion of the same time period.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS.  SODEN  commented  that  it  will be  very  difficult  for  a                                                               
pharmacists to make  that kind of determination and  it will make                                                               
it difficult  for a patient  to get  a prescription filled.   She                                                               
said she has  a problem with this portion of  the bill because of                                                               
the burden it places on the pharmacists.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON asked if pharmacists  across the state would have to                                                               
purchase new software to accomplish this requirement.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. SODEN  replied that there  are some pharmacists in  the state                                                               
that only bill  Medicaid over the Internet.  In  those cases, the                                                               
pharmacist does not do any  insurance billing electronically, she                                                               
said.   She  acknowledged that  it would  be necessary  for those                                                               
pharmacists to  purchase software.   Ms. Soden said she  has seen                                                               
studies that  say it costs  anywhere from $150,000  to $1,000,000                                                               
to setup  these programs.  She  commented that she does  not know                                                               
who would  pay for it.   There are probably some  grants from the                                                               
U.S. Department of Justice, she commented.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON said that Commissioner  Gilbertson has expressed the                                                               
desire  to track  prescription  drugs.   She  suggested that  Ms.                                                               
Wright and  the Board of  Pharmacy meet with the  commissioner to                                                               
work on a compromise to bring to the legislature next session.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. WRIGHT  replied that avenue  has been explored and  there was                                                               
an outburst of  concern that the Department Public  Safety or the                                                               
Department  of  Health  and Social  Services  would  control  the                                                               
tracking system.   The concern  was that the departments  are too                                                               
big and  too many  people would have  access to  the information.                                                               
It was  for that reason  Representative Chenault chose  the Board                                                               
of Pharmacy.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
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[CSHB 239, Version S, was held in committee.]                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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